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Automatic starting of syslog-ng
by Thomas Reidy 30 Aug '04

30 Aug '04

Running on Red Hat 9.. the application is running, logging perfectly.. I built it w/o the RPMs, and need to know how to get this to start automatically during startup.. its been a long day, so this may be obvious.. Am I right to assume if I reboot the box, I won't get logging until I manually start the script? I could just put something simple in /etc/init.d, etc but need to know what the file should say.. the init scripts never just seem to launch the programs... Thanks in advance... -- --- Tom t_r_e_i_d_y_(a)-g-m-a-i-l-.-c-o-m

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Anyone Get Syslog-NG To Compile on Red Hat?
by Rhugga 27 Aug '04

27 Aug '04

I am trying to get syslog-ng 1.6.5 compiled on a RH 9 system. I compiled libol into /usr/local/libol-0.3.14. I tried the following configuration options when trying to build sysllg-ng: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/syslog-ng-1.6.5 --with-libol=/usr/local/libol-0.3.14/lib --with-libnet=/usr/local/libol-0.3.14/bin/ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/syslog-ng-1.6.5 --with-libol=/usr/local/libol-0.3.14/lib --with-libnet=/usr/local/libol-0.3.14 ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/syslog-ng-1.6.5 --with-libol=/usr/local/libol-0.3.14/lib --with-libnet=/usr/local/libol-0.3.14/bin/libol-config Each time is complains that it cannot find libol-config: <snip> checking for strptime... yes checking for TCP wrapper library... -lwrap checking whether to enable Sun STREAMS support... no checking whether to enable Sun door support... no checking whether to enable TCP wrapper support... no checking whether to enable spoof_source support... no checking libol version >= 0.3.14... configure: error: libol-config not found in the specified location Here is libol-config: syslog:~/syslog-ng-1.6.5 #ls -la /usr/local/libol-0.3.14/bin/ total 36 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 27 07:22 . drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Aug 27 07:22 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1288 Aug 27 07:22 libol-config -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 24264 Aug 27 07:22 make_class It finds the libol library correctly, otherwise it dies before it reaches this error. It just doesn't properly detect libol-config. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, CC

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Question Regarding Syslog-NG Capabilities
by Rhugga 27 Aug '04

27 Aug '04

If I simply want to have the syslogd daemons on my Solaris boxes send their logs to a remote loghost running syslog-ng, I don't need syslog-ng on the solaris boxes correct? So on my solaris box, /etc/syslog.conf would contain an entry like this: auth.info @loghost Loghost of course would be defined in /etc/hosts and contain the IP address of the Linux system running syslog-ng. Will this config work? Some of the documentation confused me implying that syslog-ng is also needed on the client side. I will be using a standard TCP listener with syslog-ng on the loghost machine, likely using port 514. Thanks, rhugga

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Openbsd 3.5 on SPARC64 not login network hostname
by Darren J. Wise 26 Aug '04

26 Aug '04

Hi, I have a Sun Ultra 5 that I am setting up as a log server using OpenBSD 3.5 with the stable port of syslog-ng 1.5.24. In the syslog-ng.conf file I have got the following options: options { sync(0); time_reopen (10); log_fifo_size (1000); long_hostnames (no); use_dns (yes); use_fqdn (no); create_dirs(yes); chain_hostnames (no); keep_hostname (yes); perm (0600); }; And the following network related source, destination and log options: source s_net { udp(); }; destination d_net { file("/export/syslog-ng/$HOST/messages"); }; log { source(s_net); destination(d_net); }; I have got a Sparc Solaris 9 box and Linux box logging to this machine using the default Solaris/Linux syslog. The problem that I am seeing is that the log server logs all messages as if they have came from the localhost, an example from the Linux machine on the log server (loghost-test is the name of the log server) : Aug 24 12:53:38 loghost-test xfs: Entry deleted from font path. I have also compiled syslog-ng 1.6.5 with libol 0.3.14 and still get the same problem. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Darren

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offline mode?
by Maarten Thibaut 25 Aug '04

25 Aug '04

Hi, First of all, thanks for the neat software you guys make. Our organization is rolling out a mobile pc platform, we want some types of log events stored on a centralized server which is only reachable from the inside of our corporate network. So when the machine is not inside our network, the log entries need to be stored locally until such time as the centralized server is reachable. Then the logs get sent through. Can we do this with syslog-ng? From the features listed at your home page it would seem this is a standard feature... Is that right? -- maarten

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log viewing utilities?
by Ellis.Chris 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

Now that I have half of the equation solved (i.e. a better method of collecting log files using syslog-ng), does anyone have suggestions for the "other half", i.e. viewing tools that let me look at the log files without having to use grep with regular expressions and such? Compound text searches would be a great start... ! Thanks... Chris Ellis/ CIC Secure Perimeter

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Michael J. Bock/NetServ/DST/US is out of the office.
by MJBock＠dstsystems.com 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

I will be out of the office starting 08/20/2004 and will not return until 08/30/2004. I will respond to your message when I return.

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dhcp3-server logging problem
by natxete＠xs4all.nl 23 Aug '04

23 Aug '04

Hallo everybody, This is my first message to this list. I have a problem with the way syslog-ng 1.5.15 (stock debian woody) is logging the dhcp3-server messages. I have searched in the mailing-list archives and through google but could not find the answer to my problem. Which is: In the conf file for dhcp3-server, one can specify the facility where the log messages should go. The specific lines are: # Use this to send dhcp log messages to a different log file (you also # have to hack syslog.conf to complete the redirection). log-facility local7; So I created some new entries in /etc/syslog-nl/syslog-ng.conf, which are: # dest file where i want the dhcpd stuff: destination dhcpd { file("/var/log/dhcpd.log" owner("root") group("adm") perm(0640)); }; # this is all in one line, obviously. filter f_local7 { facility(local7); }; log { source(src); filter(f_local7); destination(dhcpd); }; So I restarted both services in order to reload their config files, and yes, now I get all the dhcp logging in /var/log/dhcpd.log, *but* I also get it in /var/log/syslog, which is driving me nuts, because I also have logcheck installed and every hour I get all the dhcpd messages in the logcheck emails. Is there a way I have overlooked to prevent this? TIA, N.Asenjo

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RE: [syslog-ng]check_hostname(yes) - parse error
by Smith, Krista 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

Yes, I finally figured that out. :) As other options are added though, it might be handy to know which ones are available with which versions, maybe on the online manual options page? I didn't download syslog-ng very long ago and at the time it was the most recent one listed on the download page. So I didn't realize so many others had come out in the meantime and thought that if it was listed on the options page with all the rest, it must be a standard one available to me. I stand corrected. :) Thanks, Krista -----Original Message----- From: Balazs Scheidler [mailto:bazsi@balabit.hu] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 11:54 AM To: syslog-ng(a)lists.balabit.hu Subject: Re: [syslog-ng]check_hostname(yes) - parse error On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 23:36, Smith, Krista wrote: > Hello, > > I've got syslog-ng (1.4.17) working on a Solaris 9 central logserver, > except for one small thing. I'm trying to use the option > "check_hostname(yes)" but I get a parse error when I add it to my > options. My options line looks like this: > > options { create_dirs(yes); keep_hostname(yes); check_hostname(yes); > }; > > If I remove that portion of the line, it gives no error. I've checked > for invisible characters, searched Google and the syslog-ng archives, > but cannot find anything suggesting what the problem might be. If > anyone can point me in the right direction I'd be grateful. try it with syslog-ng 1.6.4, you'll be surprised :) -- Bazsi PGP info: KeyID 9AF8D0A9 Fingerprint CD27 CFB0 802C 0944 9CFD 804E C82C 8EB1 _______________________________________________ syslog-ng maillist - syslog-ng(a)lists.balabit.hu https://lists.balabit.hu/mailman/listinfo/syslog-ng Frequently asked questions at http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng/faq.html

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RE: [syslog-ng]chroot/syslog-ng/Solaris8
by Roy G Davis 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

yes, thank you i have syslog-ng accepting normal things using streams/doors. but it is not picking up anything generated from whithin the chroot jail. i actually get the same behavior w sun's syslog too. that is: i have sftp-logging patch applied to openssh code. it works for a non-chroot user - you see them login, change directory, upload/download file, log out etc. but all i see is initial login for a chroot user. THX -----Original Message----- From: syslog-ng-admin(a)lists.balabit.hu [mailto:syslog-ng-admin@lists.balabit.hu] On Behalf Of Balazs Scheidler Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 12:58 PM To: syslog-ng(a)lists.balabit.hu Subject: RE: [syslog-ng]chroot/syslog-ng/Solaris8 On Sat, 2004-08-14 at 20:00, Roy G Davis wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: syslog-ng-admin(a)lists.balabit.hu on behalf of Nate Campi > Sent: Fri 8/13/2004 7:30 PM > To: syslog-ng(a)lists.balabit.hu > Cc: > Subject: Re: [syslog-ng]chroot/syslog-ng/Solaris8 > On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 01:26:54PM -0500, Roy G Davis wrote: > > does anyone have experience using syslog-ng with chroot-ed > applications > > on Solaris 8? > > specifically, i am running ssh/sftp chroot-ed (with sftp logging > patch) > > and i get no logging. > > i know it is something about /dev/log etc in the chroot environment > but > > cant find exact info. > > Try this, you might not have found it since it might seem postfix > specific, but it applies to anything chrooted: > > http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng/faq.html#postfix maybe the link is linux specific, you need to use sun-streams combined with the door option on Solaris. -- Bazsi PGP info: KeyID 9AF8D0A9 Fingerprint CD27 CFB0 802C 0944 9CFD 804E C82C 8EB1 _______________________________________________ syslog-ng maillist - syslog-ng(a)lists.balabit.hu https://lists.balabit.hu/mailman/listinfo/syslog-ng Frequently asked questions at http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng/faq.html

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RE: [syslog-ng]chroot/syslog-ng/Solaris8
by Roy G Davis 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

yes, thanks, i have seen that link. i tried that, but may not have done it exactly right. there is still something i am missing here. thx again -----Original Message----- From: syslog-ng-admin(a)lists.balabit.hu on behalf of Nate Campi Sent: Fri 8/13/2004 7:30 PM To: syslog-ng(a)lists.balabit.hu Cc: Subject: Re: [syslog-ng]chroot/syslog-ng/Solaris8 On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 01:26:54PM -0500, Roy G Davis wrote: > does anyone have experience using syslog-ng with chroot-ed applications > on Solaris 8? > specifically, i am running ssh/sftp chroot-ed (with sftp logging patch) > and i get no logging. > i know it is something about /dev/log etc in the chroot environment but > cant find exact info. Try this, you might not have found it since it might seem postfix specific, but it applies to anything chrooted: http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng/faq.html#postfix -- Nate To sysadmin or not to sysadmin... that is the question, whether tis nobler in the minde to suffer the slings and arrowes of outragious fortune, or climb to the top of the building with a high-power rifle and scope. _______________________________________________ syslog-ng maillist - syslog-ng(a)lists.balabit.hu https://lists.balabit.hu/mailman/listinfo/syslog-ng Frequently asked questions at http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng/faq.html

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two syslog-ngs?
by markzero＠logik.ath.cx 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

Hmm, having got stunnel mostly working, I'm left with a little more confusion. I'm about to attempt to build the loghost, the only problem is that I'll need to chroot syslog-ng. /chroot/syslogng Surely, this is going to cause problems as the chrooted syslog will need to do the logging for the local machine as well, and as such will need access to /dev/log. It can't be as simple as: ln -s /dev/log /chroot/syslogng/dev/log ...can it? Other than this, the only solution I can think of is to run two copies of syslogng, one chrooted for accepting network connections and one un-chrooted (that is an annoyingly awkward word in conversation) for doing local logging for the machine itself. Anyone come up with a better way?

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check_hostname(yes) - parse error
by Smith, Krista 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

Hello, I've got syslog-ng (1.4.17) working on a Solaris 9 central logserver, except for one small thing. I'm trying to use the option "check_hostname(yes)" but I get a parse error when I add it to my options. My options line looks like this: options { create_dirs(yes); keep_hostname(yes); check_hostname(yes); }; If I remove that portion of the line, it gives no error. I've checked for invisible characters, searched Google and the syslog-ng archives, but cannot find anything suggesting what the problem might be. If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd be grateful. Thanks, Krista -- Krista Smith Unix Analyst EnCana Corporation desk: (403) 645-3121 cell: (403) 830-2334 krista.smith(a)encana.com www.encana.com <www.encana.com>

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RE: [syslog-ng](no subject)
by Andrews, Glenn J (Glenn) 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

Great. Now virus via syslog ;-) "Antigen for Exchange removed new__price.zip->price.exe since it was found to be infected with VIRUS= Win32/Unknown.Trojan (CA(InoculateIT)) virus." -----Original Message----- From: syslog-ng-admin(a)lists.balabit.hu [mailto:syslog-ng-admin@lists.balabit.hu] On Behalf Of Bazsi Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 3:04 PM To: Syslog-ng Subject: [syslog-ng](no subject) price

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Reply-To: syslog-ng@lists.balabit.hu
by G. C. 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

I modified the file afinet.c inserting the line as suggested and gave the following commands: ./configure --enable-spoof-source --> ok make --> ERROR The error is the following: make_class <afinet.c >afinet.c.xT /bin/sh: /usr/local/bin/make_class: \: bad interpreter: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [afinet.c.x] Error 126 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/syslog-ng-1.6.4/src' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/syslog-ng-1.6.4/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/syslog-ng-1.6.4/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 Sorry but not being a developer I might have mistaken something... P. _____________________________________________________ > >Hmm.. I possible forgot to free something in that path. I'll check it out >for you. Can you check if this one works for you? Index: src/afinet.c =================================================================== RCS file: /var/cvs/syslog-ng/syslog-ng/src/afinet.c,v retrieving revision 1.25.4.6 diff -u -r1.25.4.6 afinet.c --- src/afinet.c 5 Aug 2004 11:35:12 -0000 1.25.4.6 +++ src/afinet.c 6 Aug 2004 18:15:32 -0000 @@ -653,6 +653,7 @@ if (libnet_write(self->lnet_ctx) < 0) { werror("Error sending raw frame, error: %z", libnet_geterror(self->lnet_ctx)); } + ol_string_free(msg_line); } else { fallback_socket: _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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syslog-ng : concurrent readling & writing tasks ?
by Loic SPINDLER 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

Hello, I noticed that both reading input process and writing to output are not running concurrent in the syslog-ng. Is it planned for a future release ?

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not match()
by markzero＠logik.ath.cx 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

# $Xanthus: syslog-ng.conf,v 1.1 2004/07/27 02:56:44 markzero Exp $ # syslog-ng config # options { long_hostnames(off); create_dirs(yes); owner(_syslogng); group(_syslogng); perm(0600); dir_owner(_syslogng); dir_group(_syslogng); dir_perm(0700); use_dns(no); sync(0); }; source src { unix-dgram("/dev/log" owner("_syslogng") group("_syslogng") perm(0600)); internal(); }; destination authlog { file("/var/log/auth.log"); }; destination syslog { file("/var/log/syslog"); }; destination cron { file("/var/log/cron.log"); }; destination daemon { file("/var/log/daemon.log"); }; destination kern { file("/var/log/kern.log"); }; destination lpr { file("/var/log/lpr.log"); }; destination user { file("/var/log/user.log"); }; destination uucp { file("/var/log/uucp.log"); }; destination mail { file("/var/log/mail.log"); }; destination mailinfo { file("/var/log/mail.info"); }; destination mailwarn { file("/var/log/mail.warn"); }; destination mailerr { file("/var/log/mail.err"); }; destination newscrit { file("/var/log/news/news.crit"); }; destination newserr { file("/var/log/news/news.err"); }; destination newsnotice { file("/var/log/news/news.notice"); }; destination debug { file("/var/log/debug"); }; destination messages { file("/var/log/messages"); }; #destination console { usertty("root"); }; #destination console_all { file("/dev/tty12"); }; #destination loghost { udp("loghost" port(999)); }; filter f_auth { facility(auth); }; filter f_authpriv { facility(auth, authpriv); }; filter f_syslog { not facility(authpriv, mail); }; filter f_cron { facility(cron); }; filter f_daemon { facility(daemon); }; filter f_kern { facility(kern); }; filter f_lpr { facility(lpr); }; filter f_mail { facility(mail); }; filter f_user { facility(user); }; filter f_uucp { facility(cron); }; filter f_news { facility(news); }; filter f_debug { not facility(auth, authpriv, news, mail); }; filter f_messages { level(info..warn) and not facility(auth, authpriv, mail, news); }; filter f_emergency { level(emerg); }; filter f_info { level(info); }; filter f_notice { level(notice); }; filter f_warn { level(warn); }; filter f_crit { level(crit); }; filter f_err { level(err); }; filter f_no_stats { not match("STATS: dropped 0"); }; log { source(src); filter(f_authpriv); filter(f_no_stats); destination(authlog); }; log { source(src); filter(f_syslog); filter(f_no_stats); destination(syslog); }; log { source(src); filter(f_cron); filter(f_no_stats); destination(cron); }; log { source(src); filter(f_daemon); filter(f_no_stats); destination(daemon); }; log { source(src); filter(f_kern); filter(f_no_stats); destination(kern); }; log { source(src); filter(f_lpr); filter(f_no_stats); destination(lpr); }; log { source(src); filter(f_mail); filter(f_no_stats); destination(mail); }; log { source(src); filter(f_user); filter(f_no_stats); destination(user); }; log { source(src); filter(f_uucp); filter(f_no_stats); destination(uucp); }; log { source(src); filter(f_mail); filter(f_no_stats); filter(f_info); destination(mailinfo); }; log { source(src); filter(f_mail); filter(f_no_stats); filter(f_warn); destination(mailwarn); }; log { source(src); filter(f_mail); filter(f_no_stats); filter(f_err); destination(mailerr); }; log { source(src); filter(f_news); filter(f_no_stats); filter(f_crit); destination(newscrit); }; log { source(src); filter(f_news); filter(f_no_stats); filter(f_err); destination(newserr); }; log { source(src); filter(f_news); filter(f_no_stats); filter(f_notice); destination(newsnotice); }; log { source(src); filter(f_debug); filter(f_no_stats); destination(debug); }; log { source(src); filter(f_messages); filter(f_no_stats); destination(messages); }; #log { source(src); filter(f_emergency); filter(f_no_stats); destination(console); }; #log { source(src); destination(console_all); }; Now, let me draw your attention to this line: not match("STATS: dropped 0"); For some reason, I repeatedly get this popping up on the command line: bash-2.05b# STATS: dropped 0 ..when either logged in as root or using su. This doesn't seem to make sense to me, not only is the filter not apparently working,but the lines to log to roots tty are commented out! Anyone had a similar problem? I checked the list archives first, and found a few vague examples of this, but nothing quite the same... mark

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Question
by Jim Gifford 16 Aug '04

16 Aug '04

I have always wondered about this. Why are the libol and syslog-ng separate packages? To me it seems that they should be one package since they depend on each other. -- ---- Jim Gifford maillist(a)jg555.com

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syslog-ng & stunnel, the saga continues
by markzero＠logik.ath.cx 14 Aug '04

14 Aug '04

I'm trying to use stunnel to wrap syslog-ng in SSL. The only problem is that all the documentation for stunnel presumes you're using Red Hat. I'm using OpenBSD. This means I have to generate the certificates myself, and I'm confused here. For a decent level of security, as I understand it, the server needs a certificate, signed by a CA (in this case, as it's for internal networking, the CA is me). What does the client need? I basically created a CA, created a public key and signed it to create the server certificate, what do I need to do for the clients? (I would prefer it if they all had the same certificate, to preserve my sanity). If I hear the phrase "on red hat, go to /usr/share/ssl/certs" one more time, somebody is going to find themselves eating several poorly generated certificates. :) cheers mark

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chroot/syslog-ng/Solaris8
by Roy G Davis 14 Aug '04

14 Aug '04

does anyone have experience using syslog-ng with chroot-ed applications on Solaris 8? specifically, i am running ssh/sftp chroot-ed (with sftp logging patch) and i get no logging. i know it is something about /dev/log etc in the chroot environment but cant find exact info. THX

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Syslog Relay Question
by Stevo 13 Aug '04

13 Aug '04

Hi Team, I currently use Syslog-NG to receive all my router syslog messages. Is there a way I can forward these messages on to another syslog server as well?? Stevo

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Logging to a specific destination
by Anoop Rajendra 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

I need to log all messages from iptables, ipmasq to a particular file (say iptables.log) and to that only and nothing else. Is there a way to specifically define this, ie say that messages from this daemon should go nowhere else? i've tried - # IPMasq Messages destination ipmasq { file("/var/log/iptables.log" owner("root") group("adm") perm(0640)); }; filter f_iptables( match("iptables"); ); filter fn_iptables( not match("iptables"); ); log { source(src); filter(f_authpriv); filter(fn_iptab); destination(authlog); }; log { source(src); filter(f_syslog); filter(fn_iptab); destination(syslog); }; log { source(src); filter(f_daemon); filter(fn_iptab); destination(daemon); }; log { source(src); filter(f_kern); filter(fn_iptab); destination(kern); }; log { source(src); filter(f_lpr); filter(fn_iptab); destination(lpr); }; log { source(src); filter(f_mail); filter(fn_iptab); destination(mail); }; log { source(src); filter(f_user); filter(fn_iptab); destination(user); }; log { source(src); filter(f_uucp); filter(fn_iptab); destination(uucp); }; log { source(src); filter(f_iptab); destination(ipmasq); }; Yet all the IPMasq messages are passed top both iptables.log and /var/log/messages. All IPMasq messages are prefixed with the string "iptables" using --log-prefix iptables What am I doing wrong? Thanks, Anoop /// ________________________________________________ Everybody has something to conceal. -- Humphrey Bogart

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Logging to a specific destination
by Anoop Rajendra 12 Aug '04

12 Aug '04

I need to log all messages from iptables, ipmasq to a particular file (say iptables.log) and to that only and nothing else. Is there a way to specifically define this, ie say that messages from this daemon should go nowhere else? Thanks, Anoop /// ________________________________________________ To be is to program.

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RE: [syslog-ng] Re: leak in spoof_source support
by G. C. 10 Aug '04

10 Aug '04

Ok, we tried it and... it works! Process is running smoothly with 780k stable memory occupation. Thanks a lot, I want to do some more testing but I'm quite confident the fix is working. Peter. __________________________________________________ Can you check if this one works for you? Index: src/afinet.c =================================================================== RCS file: /var/cvs/syslog-ng/syslog-ng/src/afinet.c,v retrieving revision 1.25.4.6 diff -u -r1.25.4.6 afinet.c --- src/afinet.c 5 Aug 2004 11:35:12 -0000 1.25.4.6 +++ src/afinet.c 6 Aug 2004 18:15:32 -0000 @@ -653,6 +653,7 @@ if (libnet_write(self->lnet_ctx) < 0) { werror("Error sending raw frame, error: %z", libnet_geterror(self->lnet_ctx)); } + ol_string_free(msg_line); } else { fallback_socket: -- Bazsi PGP info: KeyID 9AF8D0A9 Fingerprint CD27 CFB0 802C 0944 9CFD 804E C82C 8EB1 _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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(no subject)
by Bazsi 09 Aug '04

09 Aug '04

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