I upgraded to freebsd 4.8 from 4.7 last week and portupgrade reported it upgraded syslog-ng from syslog-ng-1.4.17 to syslog-ng-1.6.0.r1 and libol-0.2.23 to libol-0.3.9 (libol is required by syslog-ng) and while syslog-ng is working I cannot get it to store files that are group readable. In the past this has been no problem, but now syslog-ng seems to insist upon permissions of 600. I even went sofar as to set a umask of 137, in the syslog-ng init script, which sets permissions on newly created files to 640, but that seems to have no effect, syslog-ng randomly(?) changes permissions back to 600 even after I set them to 640 myself. I have logrotate run weekly and create files that are 640: /var/log-ng/* { create 0640 root wheel notifempty errors my@email.address rotate 26 weekly compress delaycompress olddir /var/log-ng/archive missingok } but syslog-ng again changes it back to 600. driving me crazy :) I don't see anything in the syslog-ng manpage that can set file permissions..so I'm at a loss! I have been running syslog-ng on freebsd 4.7 with no problems since about september 2002. anyone else experience this? thanks nate