UI for editing syslog-ng configuration files
Hi, Not sure if this is the best forum to ask this question, but I'm not having any luck trolling through Google, Sourceforge and Freshmeat. Does anyone know of any front-end UI (web or GUI) for editing a syslog-ng configuration file? I'm looking for something simple for users who are not familiar with the config file format to take on. Thanks!
On Thu, 2006-10-19 at 15:55 -0400, John Svazic wrote:
Hi,
Not sure if this is the best forum to ask this question, but I'm not having any luck trolling through Google, Sourceforge and Freshmeat. Does anyone know of any front-end UI (web or GUI) for editing a syslog-ng configuration file? I'm looking for something simple for users who are not familiar with the config file format to take on. Thanks!
i would wager to say that if you cannot handle the (relatively) simple syntax of the syslog-ng.conf file, you probably shouldnt be making modifications to the syslog daemon (with or without a gui). to answer your original question, i am not aware of any gui. -- Matt Zagrabelny - mzagrabe@d.umn.edu - (218) 726 8844 University of Minnesota Duluth Information Technology Systems & Services PGP key 1024D/84E22DA2 2005-11-07 Fingerprint: 78F9 18B3 EF58 56F5 FC85 C5CA 53E7 887F 84E2 2DA2 He is not a fool who gives up what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose. -Jim Elliot
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:55:49 EDT, John Svazic said:
Not sure if this is the best forum to ask this question, but I'm not having any luck trolling through Google, Sourceforge and Freshmeat. Does anyone know of any front-end UI (web or GUI) for editing a syslog-ng configuration file? I'm looking for something simple for users who are not familiar with the config file format to take on. Thanks!
The problem is that GUIs are good at doing syntax, not semantics. Unfortunately, the syntax is simple enough that people should be able to deal with it without much trouble. It's the *semantics* that are a problem, as anybody who reads this list would know - people asking for help with syntax errors are fairly rare, but people wondering why the messages aren't going where intended is a daily occurrence. And a GUI can't help you there....
The problem is that GUIs are good at doing syntax, not semantics.
For that, you need a good debugging mechanism with multiple, granular, levels of verbosity, which seems to be lacking (i.e, troubleshooting the internally configured logic). I haven't tried 2.x, though. l8* -lava (Brian A. Seklecki - Pittsburgh, PA, USA) http://www.spiritual-machines.org/ "...from back in the heady days when "helpdesk" meant nothing, "diskquota" meant everything, and lives could be bought and sold for a couple of pages of laser printout - and frequently were." On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:55:49 EDT, John Svazic said:
Not sure if this is the best forum to ask this question, but I'm not having any luck trolling through Google, Sourceforge and Freshmeat. Does anyone know of any front-end UI (web or GUI) for editing a syslog-ng configuration file? I'm looking for something simple for users who are not familiar with the config file format to take on. Thanks!
The problem is that GUIs are good at doing syntax, not semantics. Unfortunately, the syntax is simple enough that people should be able to deal with it without much trouble. It's the *semantics* that are a problem, as anybody who reads this list would know - people asking for help with syntax errors are fairly rare, but people wondering why the messages aren't going where intended is a daily occurrence. And a GUI can't help you there.... _______________________________________________ syslog-ng maillist - syslog-ng@lists.balabit.hu https://lists.balabit.hu/mailman/listinfo/syslog-ng Frequently asked questions at http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng/faq.html
On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 19:15 -0400, Brian A. Seklecki wrote:
The problem is that GUIs are good at doing syntax, not semantics.
For that, you need a good debugging mechanism with multiple, granular, levels of verbosity, which seems to be lacking (i.e, troubleshooting the internally configured logic).
I haven't tried 2.x, though.
2.0.x has a more verbose logging on filter evaluation. There are only two logging levels though, verbose and non-verbose mode. -- Bazsi
2.0.x has a more verbose logging on filter evaluation. There are only
Excellent. Than FreeBSD Ports is a must. Maybe next week. Actually now that I'm back from Vacation I see that it's in there. I'll have my PFY do some testing with it to see if what we expect is as so. l8*, ~BAS
two logging levels though, verbose and non-verbose mode.
-- Bazsi
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l8* -lava (Brian A. Seklecki - Pittsburgh, PA, USA) http://www.spiritual-machines.org/ "...from back in the heady days when "helpdesk" meant nothing, "diskquota" meant everything, and lives could be bought and sold for a couple of pages of laser printout - and frequently were."
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Balazs Scheidler
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Brian A. Seklecki
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John Svazic
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Matt Zagrabelny
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