on my earlier post i forgot to include which version i was running of syslog-ng. 1.2.2 on all machines * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Jacob Zehnder * * * * * * * * * Grill Master * * * * * * * * "The dude abides." * * * * 'The Big Lebowski' * * * * * * * * * * * * * *