Hi, Has anyone worked with ACS logs and solved the message header limit ? We can get syslog working but as expected the message gets truncated. Local logs on the ACS have the entire payload. Thinking there may be a way to script a log fetch or something. Thanks Scot
At our side we used a patterndb to unwrap the ACS logs into single long line messages. These long lines seem to be wrapped at the source (Cisco device) before sending to the syslog server. Evan. On 11/14/2017 02:03 PM, Scot wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone worked with ACS logs and solved the message header limit ? We can get syslog working but as expected the message gets truncated.
Local logs on the ACS have the entire payload.
Thinking there may be a way to script a log fetch or something.
Thanks Scot
Thanks Evan, Didn't see much in term of cisco documentation of the format. Is that 1st number in the message header unique to each message and do you share patterns ? Scot On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca> wrote:
At our side we used a patterndb to unwrap the ACS logs into single long line messages. These long lines seem to be wrapped at the source (Cisco device) before sending to the syslog server.
Evan.
On 11/14/2017 02:03 PM, Scot wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone worked with ACS logs and solved the message header limit ? We can get syslog working but as expected the message gets truncated.
Local logs on the ACS have the entire payload.
Thinking there may be a way to script a log fetch or something.
Thanks Scot
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Answered out of band because the details are messy. If there is sufficient interest I can clean it up and post it to the list. Evan. On 11/15/2017 04:26 AM, Scot wrote:
Thanks Evan, Didn't see much in term of cisco documentation of the format. Is that 1st number in the message header unique to each message and do you share patterns ?
Scot
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca <mailto:erempel@uvic.ca>> wrote:
At our side we used a patterndb to unwrap the ACS logs into single long line messages. These long lines seem to be wrapped at the source (Cisco device) before sending to the syslog server.
Evan.
On 11/14/2017 02:03 PM, Scot wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone worked with ACS logs and solved the message header limit ? We can get syslog working but as expected the message gets truncated.
Local logs on the ACS have the entire payload.
Thinking there may be a way to script a log fetch or something.
Thanks
Hello, It would be really useful if you could share it (Y). Kokan On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:18 PM Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca> wrote:
Answered out of band because the details are messy. If there is sufficient interest I can clean it up and post it to the list.
Evan.
On 11/15/2017 04:26 AM, Scot wrote:
Thanks Evan, Didn't see much in term of cisco documentation of the format. Is that 1st number in the message header unique to each message and do you share patterns ?
Scot
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca> wrote:
At our side we used a patterndb to unwrap the ACS logs into single long line messages. These long lines seem to be wrapped at the source (Cisco device) before sending to the syslog server.
Evan.
On 11/14/2017 02:03 PM, Scot wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone worked with ACS logs and solved the message header limit ? We can get syslog working but as expected the message gets truncated.
Local logs on the ACS have the entire payload.
Thinking there may be a way to script a log fetch or something.
Thanks
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Yup, I might even add this use case to my latedt application parsers framewrok. On Nov 15, 2017 17:57, "Kókai Péter" <peter.kokai@balabit.com> wrote:
Hello,
It would be really useful if you could share it (Y).
Kokan
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:18 PM Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca> wrote:
Answered out of band because the details are messy. If there is sufficient interest I can clean it up and post it to the list.
Evan.
On 11/15/2017 04:26 AM, Scot wrote:
Thanks Evan, Didn't see much in term of cisco documentation of the format. Is that 1st number in the message header unique to each message and do you share patterns ?
Scot
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca> wrote:
At our side we used a patterndb to unwrap the ACS logs into single long line messages. These long lines seem to be wrapped at the source (Cisco device) before sending to the syslog server.
Evan.
On 11/14/2017 02:03 PM, Scot wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone worked with ACS logs and solved the message header limit ? We can get syslog working but as expected the message gets truncated.
Local logs on the ACS have the entire payload.
Thinking there may be a way to script a log fetch or something.
Thanks
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Before I put this out into the public I thought I would familiarize myself with it again, and I think there is a mistake that never seems to get invoked anyways. Perhaps Balázs could review. Attached is the correlate.xml patterndb for correlating the messages. I think the mistake is the the two "action condition" clauses where the MESSAGE is set to "${csologline}@1". I think this should be "${csologline}". It is working in my environment, so perhaps the clause "$(context-length)" == "$max" is never true and it is the timeout that always gets triggered. The other consideration is that if these unwrapped log messages are sent on to an analysis framework that understands the native format of these messages, the patterndb should maintain the message number, max and counters. To do that the rule IDs *_0 should set csologline with <value name="csologline">CSCOacs_Failed_Attempts $msgnum 1 0 $line</value> <value name="csologline">CSCOacs_Passed_Authentications $msgnum 1 0 $line</value> I can not do that in my environment because I have already rewritten these log lines to give them a program name. Here are the details. 1. I use the rewrite.xml pattern database to detect the acs log lines and give them a program name. template t_rewrite { template("$MSGHDR$MESSAGE"); template_escape(no); }; parser p_rewrite { db_parser( file("rewrite.xml") inject_mode(internal) template(t_rewrite) ); }; 2. Then I use the correlate.xml pattern database to unwrap the log messages. This only works because I have already added the program name. parser p_correlate { db_parser( file("correlate.xml") inject_mode(pass-through) ); }; The final bit of configuration to get this all working. filter f_correlate_drop { tags("CORRELATE_DROP") and not tags("CORRELATE_CONTINUE"); }; log { source(s_network); parser(p_rewrite); parser(p_correlate); # if the p_correlate parser is unwrapping lines, then the line snippits need to be dropped log { filter(f_correlate_drop); flags(final); }; ... whatever else you need for logging }; I hope this makes it into some official docs, blog or repository for everyone to use. Evan On 11/15/2017 09:01 AM, Scheidler, Balázs wrote:
Yup, I might even add this use case to my latedt application parsers framewrok.
On Nov 15, 2017 17:57, "Kókai Péter" <peter.kokai@balabit.com <mailto:peter.kokai@balabit.com>> wrote:
Hello,
It would be really useful if you could share it (Y).
Kokan
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:18 PM Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca <mailto:erempel@uvic.ca>> wrote:
Answered out of band because the details are messy. If there is sufficient interest I can clean it up and post it to the list.
Evan.
On 11/15/2017 04:26 AM, Scot wrote:
Thanks Evan, Didn't see much in term of cisco documentation of the format. Is that 1st number in the message header unique to each message and do you share patterns ?
Scot
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca <mailto:erempel@uvic.ca>> wrote:
At our side we used a patterndb to unwrap the ACS logs into single long line messages. These long lines seem to be wrapped at the source (Cisco device) before sending to the syslog server.
Evan.
On 11/14/2017 02:03 PM, Scot wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone worked with ACS logs and solved the message header limit ? We can get syslog working but as expected the message gets truncated.
Local logs on the ACS have the entire payload.
Thinking there may be a way to script a log fetch or something.
Thanks
Thanks. I'll try to simplify this. On Nov 15, 2017 19:09, "Evan Rempel" <erempel@uvic.ca> wrote:
Before I put this out into the public I thought I would familiarize myself with it again, and I think there is a mistake that never seems to get invoked anyways. Perhaps Balázs could review.
Attached is the correlate.xml patterndb for correlating the messages.
I think the mistake is the the two "action condition" clauses where the MESSAGE is set to "${csologline}@1". I think this should be "${csologline}". It is working in my environment, so perhaps the clause "$(context-length)" == "$max" is never true and it is the timeout that always gets triggered.
The other consideration is that if these unwrapped log messages are sent on to an analysis framework that understands the native format of these messages, the patterndb should maintain the message number, max and counters. To do that the rule IDs *_0 should set csologline with
<value name="csologline">CSCOacs_Failed_Attempts $msgnum 1 0 $line</value> <value name="csologline">CSCOacs_Passed_Authentications $msgnum 1 0 $line</value>
I can not do that in my environment because I have already rewritten these log lines to give them a program name.
Here are the details.
1. I use the rewrite.xml pattern database to detect the acs log lines and give them a program name.
template t_rewrite { template("$MSGHDR$MESSAGE"); template_escape(no); }; parser p_rewrite { db_parser( file("rewrite.xml") inject_mode(internal) template(t_rewrite) ); };
2. Then I use the correlate.xml pattern database to unwrap the log messages. This only works because I have already added the program name.
parser p_correlate { db_parser( file("correlate.xml") inject_mode(pass-through) ); };
The final bit of configuration to get this all working.
filter f_correlate_drop { tags("CORRELATE_DROP") and not tags("CORRELATE_CONTINUE"); };
log { source(s_network); parser(p_rewrite); parser(p_correlate); # if the p_correlate parser is unwrapping lines, then the line snippits need to be dropped log { filter(f_correlate_drop); flags(final); }; ... whatever else you need for logging };
I hope this makes it into some official docs, blog or repository for everyone to use.
Evan
On 11/15/2017 09:01 AM, Scheidler, Balázs wrote:
Yup, I might even add this use case to my latedt application parsers framewrok.
On Nov 15, 2017 17:57, "Kókai Péter" <peter.kokai@balabit.com> wrote:
Hello,
It would be really useful if you could share it (Y).
Kokan
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:18 PM Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca> wrote:
Answered out of band because the details are messy. If there is sufficient interest I can clean it up and post it to the list.
Evan.
On 11/15/2017 04:26 AM, Scot wrote:
Thanks Evan, Didn't see much in term of cisco documentation of the format. Is that 1st number in the message header unique to each message and do you share patterns ?
Scot
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca> wrote:
At our side we used a patterndb to unwrap the ACS logs into single long line messages. These long lines seem to be wrapped at the source (Cisco device) before sending to the syslog server.
Evan.
On 11/14/2017 02:03 PM, Scot wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone worked with ACS logs and solved the message header limit ? We can get syslog working but as expected the message gets truncated.
Local logs on the ACS have the entire payload.
Thinking there may be a way to script a log fetch or something.
Thanks
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thanks On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Scheidler, Balázs < balazs.scheidler@balabit.com> wrote:
Thanks. I'll try to simplify this.
On Nov 15, 2017 19:09, "Evan Rempel" <erempel@uvic.ca> wrote:
Before I put this out into the public I thought I would familiarize myself with it again, and I think there is a mistake that never seems to get invoked anyways. Perhaps Balázs could review.
Attached is the correlate.xml patterndb for correlating the messages.
I think the mistake is the the two "action condition" clauses where the MESSAGE is set to "${csologline}@1". I think this should be "${csologline}". It is working in my environment, so perhaps the clause "$(context-length)" == "$max" is never true and it is the timeout that always gets triggered.
The other consideration is that if these unwrapped log messages are sent on to an analysis framework that understands the native format of these messages, the patterndb should maintain the message number, max and counters. To do that the rule IDs *_0 should set csologline with
<value name="csologline">CSCOacs_Failed_Attempts $msgnum 1 0 $line</value> <value name="csologline">CSCOacs_Passed_Authentications $msgnum 1 0 $line</value>
I can not do that in my environment because I have already rewritten these log lines to give them a program name.
Here are the details.
1. I use the rewrite.xml pattern database to detect the acs log lines and give them a program name.
template t_rewrite { template("$MSGHDR$MESSAGE"); template_escape(no); }; parser p_rewrite { db_parser( file("rewrite.xml") inject_mode(internal) template(t_rewrite) ); };
2. Then I use the correlate.xml pattern database to unwrap the log messages. This only works because I have already added the program name.
parser p_correlate { db_parser( file("correlate.xml") inject_mode(pass-through) ); };
The final bit of configuration to get this all working.
filter f_correlate_drop { tags("CORRELATE_DROP") and not tags("CORRELATE_CONTINUE"); };
log { source(s_network); parser(p_rewrite); parser(p_correlate); # if the p_correlate parser is unwrapping lines, then the line snippits need to be dropped log { filter(f_correlate_drop); flags(final); }; ... whatever else you need for logging };
I hope this makes it into some official docs, blog or repository for everyone to use.
Evan
On 11/15/2017 09:01 AM, Scheidler, Balázs wrote:
Yup, I might even add this use case to my latedt application parsers framewrok.
On Nov 15, 2017 17:57, "Kókai Péter" <peter.kokai@balabit.com> wrote:
Hello,
It would be really useful if you could share it (Y).
Kokan
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:18 PM Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca> wrote:
Answered out of band because the details are messy. If there is sufficient interest I can clean it up and post it to the list.
Evan.
On 11/15/2017 04:26 AM, Scot wrote:
Thanks Evan, Didn't see much in term of cisco documentation of the format. Is that 1st number in the message header unique to each message and do you share patterns ?
Scot
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 8:36 PM, Evan Rempel <erempel@uvic.ca> wrote:
At our side we used a patterndb to unwrap the ACS logs into single long line messages. These long lines seem to be wrapped at the source (Cisco device) before sending to the syslog server.
Evan.
On 11/14/2017 02:03 PM, Scot wrote:
Hi,
Has anyone worked with ACS logs and solved the message header limit ? We can get syslog working but as expected the message gets truncated.
Local logs on the ACS have the entire payload.
Thinking there may be a way to script a log fetch or something.
Thanks
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