[syslog-ng] a bit [offtopic] but may not. syslog search solution for free

[Pal, Laszlo]

Hi,

Thanks for the answers. So, I definitely need an onprem solution and yes,
Elastic is a good idea, however based on my previous research even the OS
version is restricted to some amount of daily log. Maybe I'm wrong and in
this case I may give a try again. At this point I don't know how much logs
will I ingest daily but because it is more than 30K devices including core
routers, firewalls and all sort of servers, I don't think any traffic
limited solution will be sufficient.

Graylog is a very good solution which I already tested but the "free"
version is limited to something like 50 Mbyet per day.

I'll check this onion thingy, thank you Peter for the heads up

Vlad

On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 10:01 AM Peter Czanik (pczanik) <
Peter.Czanik at oneidentity.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are not my personal experiences, but talking to thousands of
> syslog-ng users at different events:
>
>
>    - Many are happy with grep and hate anything with a GUI. It works
>    relatively well, if you have many small log files (separated by date, host,
>    application, etc.), but if you have lots of logs, you can't avoid message
>    parsing and indexing for efficient search.
>    - Splunk is one of the most popular destinations with syslog-ng. OSE
>    users tend to use the free version, which can index up to 500MB of logs a
>    day.
>    - Elasticsearch is the other most popular destination. With the latest
>    version most of the security features are included in the open source
>    version for free, so it does not need 3rd party extensions or a commercial
>    license any more.
>    - Graylog is also getting popular among syslog-ng users. We can feed
>    it with structured log messages in multiple ways: either GELF or JSON.
>    Free, open source, but commercial extensions and support are available.
>    - I did not test recently, but Security Onion is a nice security
>    analytic platform which also includes log management with analysis,
>    dashboards, etc. It's free, open source, but commercial support is
>    available.
>    - Logzilla is focused on Cisco network devices and automation but also
>    works for generic log management. It is commercial software, but a free
>    version is also available.
>
> Of course any time indexing and GUI are involved you need some extra
> hardware compared syslog-ng, so definitely more expensive even if you go
> with the free versions.
>
> Bye,
>
> Peter Czanik (CzP) <peter.czanik at oneidentity.com>
> Balabit (a OneIdentity company) / syslog-ng upstream
> https://syslog-ng.com/community/
> https://twitter.com/PCzanik
>
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> Hi,
>
> Our new central syslog collect&store system are almost complete and
> finally it is based on Syslog-ng OSE. The only issue I want to solve, is
> how to present those logs to the users. Originally I thought it would be
> enough if they will get the directories as NFS exports and they can use
> their favourite grep to search files, but I thought maybe I can implement
> some more user friendly solution.
>
> In the planning phase of the project, I've tested various solutions
> including Graylog, ELK and of course I'm aware of the beauty of SSB :) ,
> but all of these solutions are too expensive for this project.
>
> Then I thought maybe if I forward the logs to some database (SQL or noSQL)
> I can try to find some very simple frontend for that DB provides a simple
> search interface for those logs. Nothing fancy is required, but AD auth
> should be an option.
>
> I'm sure I'm not the only one facing this issue, so I hope someone in the
> community can share some previous experience on this
>
> Thanks
> Vlad
>
>
>
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