[syslog-ng] Syslog-NG with MongoDB

Richárd Réfi richard.refi at balabit.com
Thu May 19 08:07:04 CEST 2016


Hi,

I would try mysql/mariadb tweaks also:
- index(or indices) on one or more column(s) of the mysql table according
to the queries of loganalyzer
- check the different cache and buffer options in your mysql conf
- my opinion and experience is that mysql partitioning can do magic on this
amount of data. A query could run only on few gigs portion of data (and a
good indexing accelerates the query of these few gigs also).

Unfortunately your mongodb problem remains open.

Regards, Richie


On Wed, May 18, 2016, 14:37 Ivan Adji - Krstev <akivanradix at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Nop,
> Again same problem:
> Here is what i have done
>
>
> destination d_mongodb {
>         mongodb(
>         servers("localhost:27017")
>         database("syslog")
>         username("Ivan")
>         password("Ivan123")
>         collection("messages")
>
>         value-pairs(
>             scope("selected-macros" "nv-pairs" "sdata")
>             pair("date", datetime("$UNIXTIME"))
>             pair("pid", int64("$PID"))
>             pair("program", "$PROGRAM")
>             pair("message", "$MESSAGE")
>                 )
>                         );
>                         };
> Still have the same problem no info on date no nothing. The strange part
> is that when i open a specific log i have all the info. The only problem is
> where on a first page on the LogAnalyzer i don't have this problems.
>
> And yes again we may have two problems: One is the DB information how its
> stored, and by this i think we stored as we should, but do i have to
> configure some tables in the MongoDB or columns or something ( that is how
> i did it with MySQL ). The second is something wrong with the LogAnalyzer
> so now im going to reconfigure with PostgreSQL and again with MySQL to see
> if something will be change.
>
>
>
> Ivan
>
> On 05/18/2016 01:53 PM, Fekete, Róbert wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Do you know in what type does loganalyzer expect the specific fields?
> AFAIK, by default, syslog-ng sends everything as string, but for the
> mongodb destination, you can specify the data type, see
> https://www.balabit.com/sites/default/files/documents/syslog-ng-ose-latest-guides/en/syslog-ng-ose-guide-admin/html/specifying-data-types.html
>
> Try sending the date as datetime, and the others as numbers, maybe it
> helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robert
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Ivan Adji - Krstev <akivanradix at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Robert,
>> i just thought of that and goggling how to add columns or some other
>> similar scenarios, i think that the problem lays on how syslog-ng send the
>> logs in the DB. Or how DB is storing this messages. As i have not configure
>> nothing on the MongoDB just username and password for already created DB by
>> the syslog-ng.
>>
>> If some one have some tips, ill be happy to try it :)
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Ivan
>>
>> On 05/18/2016 01:43 PM, Fekete, Róbert wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> can you check the mongodb itself if the related fields/tags/whatever are
>> in place?
>> I mean, the problem might be in how syslog-ng sends the data into
>> MongoDB, or in how loganalyzer reads the data from MongoDB. Is there a way
>> for you to find out which?
>>
>> Robert
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Ivan Adji - Krstev <
>> akivanradix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> Thanks for the feedback.
>>> The problem is that im trying to monitor big infrastructure ( 200
>>> Physical servers and more than 1000 VMs ). So currently i have install with
>>> MongoDB and have 300MB for one week monitoring just two VMs. The server
>>> syslog-ng and one client VM. Also i have used before syslog-ng with MariaDB
>>> (MySQL) but i have problem that i have 90% CPU Load when i used MySQL. I
>>> can't fix it. But now using MongoDB i have other problems. Using
>>> LogAnalyzer i can't see the "Date", "Facility", Serverity etc. on a main
>>> page but when i go to the log itself or i open it i can see all this
>>> informations. So i have the following
>>>
>>> 1. Syslog-NG with MySQL and LogAnalyzer ( works ok but CPU Usage was big
>>> )
>>> 2. Syslog-NG with MongoDB and LogAnalyzer ( works ok but no informations
>>> shown on a first page )
>>>
>>> So i can't find solutions and i need this sh*** up and running ASAP :)
>>>
>>> Any solutions or suggestions im open to see it !
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Ivan
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/16/2016 05:43 PM, jrhendri at roadrunner.com wrote:
>>>
>>> My 2 cents (what works for you depends on your infrastructure, resources and capabilities)
>>>
>>> I like the model where syslog-ng does all the following:
>>>
>>> - writes text files of the raw data (that way - whatever your search head is can re-ingest files later using basically the same parsers)
>>>
>>> - filters out highly false-positive prone data from being forwarded
>>>
>>> - handles parsing of data elements (using patterndb or whatever) and sends specific information to a search engine (like Elasticsearch)
>>>
>>> - forwards specific data (based on security use cases) to a SIEM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whether you use Elasticsearch, mongo, splunk, or whatever is really up to you and your budget.
>>> That said, I find syslog-ng to elasticsearch directly with kibana as the front end is *very* scalable for a search engine.
>>>
>>> As far as a SIEM - it's kind of up to you.
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Ivan Adji - Krstev <akivanradix at gmail.com> <akivanradix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> What is the best practice for storing all those logs in one central
>>> environment. I have one Linux Box running Syslog-NG with LogAnalyzer and
>>> MongoDB ( for now ), and is the best way to configure and use it with
>>> MongoDB or with MariaDB ( MySQL ) ? I have once install MySQL but it was
>>> getting very slow as the logs getting bigger and bigger ( for one week ).
>>> Now i have done with MongoDB ( still testing ) but i have problem as
>>> LogAnalyzer does not show me the real pictures, i have no Date info, no
>>> Facility, no serverity, Hosts, syslogtag, i just have ProcessID.
>>>
>>> Any hints on this ?
>>>
>>> I have the following configuration on the syslog-ng.cfg:
>>>
>>> destination d_mongodb {
>>>     mongodb(
>>>     servers("localhost:27017")
>>>         database("logs")
>>> #    uri('mongodb://localhost/syslog-ng')
>>>     collection("syslog")
>>>     value-pairs(
>>>     scope("selected-macros" "nv-pairs" "sdata")
>>>         )
>>>             );
>>>             };
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Ivan
>>>
>>>
>>>
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