[syslog-ng] bugzilla items not forwarded to this list

Christopher Barry christopher.barry at rackwareinc.com
Thu Apr 15 21:35:55 CEST 2010


On Thu, 2010-04-15 at 21:13 +0200, Balazs Scheidler wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 21:57 +0200, Balazs Scheidler wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 12:59 -0400, Christopher Barry wrote:
> > > > Isn't this a little spammy? Perhaps a "dev" mailing list would be a 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I second that idea. A -dev would be the best way to distribute bugzilla
> > > ticket status.
> > 
> > Well, is it really that spammy? We had about 80 tickets in the last 2.5
> > half years. This gateway used to work this way for most of this time,
> > only recently was it broken.
> > 
> > I guesstimate that we had at most 300 bugzilla mails in 2.5 years.
> > That's about 1 every 3 days on average.
> > 
> > If we push bugzilla to a -dev list, then reports there would get less
> > visibility, making it easier to just send bugreports to the list. Also,
> > I find it useful to know that there's a bug lurking somewhere, even if
> > you are not affected.
> > 
> > Nevertheless, I got two comments who supported the idea of creating a
> > separate -dev list, I can do that if need to be. But before doing that
> > I'd like to clarify the aims of the dev list.
> > 
> > Apart from bugzilla mail, what discussions should be moved to the dev
> > list?
> > 
> > * I frequently post patches here in response to user requests
> > * Sometimes I feel I need to explain some things in response to a user
> > request that describes code (for example: you can find this code here
> > and there, where you can tweak it)
> > 
> > Currently I don't feel that the list traffic is overwhelming (10-15
> > messages daily) and until it becomes irritating I would vote against
> > separating discussions to a separate -dev list.
> > 
> > What I saw in other projects, is that this separation is performed when
> > the number of support questions become so large that developers would
> > prefer to ignore that, and I wouldn't want to move off the "user" list.
> > 
> > So what is your opinion? Please respond
> > 
> >   1) create a separate "dev" list as proposed and keep the current list
> > for user questions
> >   2) create a separate "bugs" list, only to have bugzilla mail
> >   3) don't do anything, bugzilla mail is fine here
> >   4) stop bugzilla mail altogether
> > 
> > I would propose #3 right now and we had two suggestion for #1, but I'd
> > like to gather more opinions in the light of the questions I've asked
> > here.
> > 
> > I've set up a simple doodle based poll here:
> > 
> > http://www.doodle.com/mn68mrc5977skwsd
> > 
> > Please respond there, so it is easier to collect the responses. Lance,
> > Christopher, please also add your opinion to the Doodle poll. Thanks.
> 
> So far we have 11 votes for option #3 above (and no votes for any other
> options). I know it's been only a day, but I'd like to close this
> question tomorrow.
> 
> So if you have a different opinion, it is now time to voice it!

If the hiccup just did a dump all at once, and that is completely out of
the ordinary, and the volume is negligible, then the visibility to all
list members is worth it. I recant and opt for #3 as well.

-C
> 
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