[syslog-ng] Pattern Database first snapshot available

ILLES, Marton illes.marton at balabit.hu
Fri Dec 18 17:39:39 CET 2009


On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 13:00 -0600, Martin Holste wrote:
> This is an awesome start, and I'm big into patterndb so this is really
> encouraging.  Off the bat, I'd say that it would be more helpful if
> the <values></values> tags were populated with the .dict values that
> are being extracted so that you can construct output patterns
> properly.

The <values></values> could be use to specify additional values which
you want to set, but do not appear in the message itself. For example if
you want to classify login messages, but for a certain message the
username does not appear, but you know that this message reports a
specific username. This case you can use the <values> to assign
the .dict.username variable (for example) to that specific user and
latter you can be sure that it exists.

I am still not sure if I completely understand your suggestion...

> Along with that, if you have a different name for every .dict value
> extracted, it becomes labor-intensive to capture them in your output
> template.  I prefer a method in which I have arbitrarily capped the
> number of values to be extracted to be six strings, six integers.  I
> then label the values I extract as s0-s5 and i0-i5.  That way I only
> need one template for all patterns extracted.  Separating the strings
> and integers makes database insertion easy because my tables then look
> like <header columns> MSG, pattern_class_id, pattern_rule_id, i0 ..
> i5, s0 .. s5.  Now searching for fields becomes possible if you know
> what field belongs to what pattern rule ID.  I also prefer to have the
> rule ID's as integers to keep my DB columns smaller.

The reason for using UUID was to have the ability to provide global
unique ids, simple integers would be hard to maintain. I was also
thinking using OIDs for IDs, but UUID was an easier choice. Technically
you can use simple integers or any other string as syslog-ng currently
does not check it. I will think about it... :)

Using integers would be also better because of DB indexing purposes. If
you want to use integers, you can than assign a <value
name="my_id">42</value> as a work-around to each pattern and latter use
"my_id" in your templates.  

> Here's an example for a Cisco FWSM deny and NAT translation teardown
> messages that I've been using:
> 
> <ruleset name="FWSM" id='2'>
>                 <pattern>%FWSM</pattern>
>                 <rules>
>                         <rule provider="local" class='2' id='2'>
>                                 <patterns>
>                                         <pattern>Deny at QSTRING:i0:
> @src at QSTRING:s0: :@@IPv4:i1:@/@NUMBER:i2:@ dst at QSTRING:s1:
> :@@IPv4:i3:@/@NUMBER:i4:@ by access-group @QSTRING:s2:"@</pattern>
>                                 </patterns>
>                         </rule>
>                         <rule provider="local" class='3' id='3'>
>                                 <patterns>
>                                         <pattern>Teardown at QSTRING:i0:
> @connection @NUMBER::@ for at QSTRING:s0: :@@IPv4:i1:@/@NUMBER:i2:@
> to at QSTRING:s1: :@@IPv4:i3:@/@NUMBER:i4:@ duration at QSTRING:s2: @bytes
> @NUMBER:i5:@</pattern>
>                                 </patterns>
>                         </rule>
>                 </rules>
>         </ruleset>

I prefer using more meaning-full names as this way you can normalize
your logs, so that it wont matter if it is a PIX, iptables etc. log
message, you can always refer to the source/destination address with
it's name. It requires to store different type of logs in different
tables, but you can freely change your application without changing your
log processing scripts.

You can also combine these to methods to use meaningful names in
patterns and using <values> you can assign to numbered values, like
this:

<value name="s1">${.dict.source_ip}</value>

Of course it would require a bit more memory and CPU cycles. Of course
you are free to name your values as you want. I think it is really a
question on the patterns we try to build and distribute. Maybe I can add
a rewrite mechanism to pdbtool which would rename the pattern names to
numbered value names. So this way we can publish patterns with
meaningful names and anyone can latter rename the patterns for numbered
names. Would it fit your needs?

> 
> My back-end script does a bit of magic with IPv4 char -> uint parsing
> for better DB storage.  (If anyone at Balabit would like to toss in a
> little feature for easy outputting as inet_aton/inet_ntoa from
> socket.h, that would be cool!)  So, if I'm looking for all denied
> packets from IP address 1.1.1.1, I would search my DB where class_id=2
> and i1=INET_ATON("1.1.1.1").

I have also had some plan to store parsed values as different type of
data and not always as string. IP addresses, numbers are a very good
candidate for this. I put it on my todo list. :)

Thanks for your comments I really appreciate it.

best,

Marton

> 
> Have any others been using db-parser values?  Any methods to share?
> 
> --Martin
> 
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:20 PM, ILLES, Marton <illes.marton at balabit.hu> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Last week BalaBit made available some 8000 patterns (covering more than
> > 200 applications) for syslog-ng patterndb (or db_parser as you like to
> > call it). The patterns are available under the Creative Commons
> > Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 (CC by-NC-SA) license. The
> > patterns in their current form are just snapshots of the ongoing effort
> > of providing good quality patterns for various applications. You can
> > download the snapshot of patterns from our website:
> > http://www.balabit.com/downloads/files/patterndb-snapshot/patterndb-20091209.zip
> >
> > The patterns are partially hand-crafted and also automatically generated
> > from logfiles and from logcheck regexp based database. Some of the
> > patterns also contains example messages which we are using to
> > automatically test the pattern and syslog-ng's db_parser. You can merge
> > the xml files using "pdbtool merge".
> >
> > I would also like to setup a public git repository where anyone
> > interested can follow the patterndb development and can submit patterns
> > or fixes. A patterndb website containing all patterndb related
> > information, links, forums, wikis and other useful documentations is
> > under construction as well. Till than the syslog-ng mailing list a good
> > place for questions, ideas and discussions.
> >
> > As always feedbacks are very welcomed!
> >
> > Happy parsing!
> >
> > Marton
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