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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hi Richie, <br>
<br>
I'll do that too, the think that scares me is that I'm running
maybe two weeks this syslog-ng and i have 400 MB of logs and im
logging just 2 Machines, the Server itself and on Client. <br>
And im planning to loging more than 1500 machines. So im not sure
what to choose. MongoDB, MySQL, or PostgreSQL.<br>
<br>
And for now i have problems with all of them :)<br>
<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
Ivan<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/19/2016 08:07 AM, Richárd Réfi
wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Hi,</p>
<p dir="ltr">I would try mysql/mariadb tweaks also:<br>
- index(or indices) on one or more column(s) of the mysql table
according to the queries of loganalyzer<br>
- check the different cache and buffer options in your mysql
conf<br>
- my opinion and experience is that mysql partitioning can do
magic on this amount of data. A query could run only on few gigs
portion of data (and a good indexing accelerates the query of
these few gigs also).</p>
<p dir="ltr">Unfortunately your mongodb problem remains open.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Regards, Richie<br>
<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, May 18, 2016, 14:37 Ivan Adji - Krstev
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:akivanradix@gmail.com">akivanradix@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <font face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif">Nop, <br>
Again same problem:<br>
Here is what i have done</font></div>
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Arial, sans-serif"><br>
<br>
destination d_mongodb {<br>
mongodb(<br>
servers("localhost:27017")<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif"> database("syslog")<br>
username("Ivan")<br>
password("Ivan123")<br>
collection("messages")</font></div>
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif"><br>
value-pairs(<br>
scope("selected-macros" "nv-pairs" "sdata")<br>
</font></div>
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif"> pair("date",
datetime("$UNIXTIME"))<br>
pair("pid", int64("$PID"))<br>
pair("program", "$PROGRAM")<br>
pair("message", "$MESSAGE")<br>
)<br>
);<br>
};<br>
Still have the same problem no info on date no nothing.
The strange part is that when i open a specific log i have
all the info. The only problem is where on a first page on
the LogAnalyzer i don't have this problems. <br>
<br>
And yes again we may have two problems: One is the DB
information how its stored, and by this i think we stored
as we should, but do i have to configure some tables in
the MongoDB or columns or something ( that is how i did it
with MySQL ). The second is something wrong with the
LogAnalyzer so now im going to reconfigure with PostgreSQL
and again with MySQL to see if something will be change.</font></div>
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif"><br>
<br>
<br>
Ivan<br>
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<div>On 05/18/2016 01:53 PM, Fekete, Róbert wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Do you know in what type does loganalyzer expect
the specific fields? </div>
<div>AFAIK, by default, syslog-ng sends everything as
string, but for the mongodb destination, you can
specify the data type, see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.balabit.com/sites/default/files/documents/syslog-ng-ose-latest-guides/en/syslog-ng-ose-guide-admin/html/specifying-data-types.html"
target="_blank">https://www.balabit.com/sites/default/files/documents/syslog-ng-ose-latest-guides/en/syslog-ng-ose-guide-admin/html/specifying-data-types.html</a></div>
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</div>
<div>Try sending the date as datetime, and the others as
numbers, maybe it helps.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Robert</div>
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PM, Ivan Adji - Krstev <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Robert, <br>
i just thought of that and goggling how to add
columns or some other similar scenarios, i think
that the problem lays on how syslog-ng send the
logs in the DB. Or how DB is storing this
messages. As i have not configure nothing on the
MongoDB just username and password for already
created DB by the syslog-ng. <br>
<br>
If some one have some tips, ill be happy to try
it :)<br>
<br>
Kind regards<span><font color="#888888"><br>
Ivan<br>
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<div>On 05/18/2016 01:43 PM, Fekete, Róbert
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>can you check the mongodb itself if
the related fields/tags/whatever are in
place?</div>
<div>I mean, the problem might be in how
syslog-ng sends the data into MongoDB,
or in how loganalyzer reads the data
from MongoDB. Is there a way for you to
find out which?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Robert</div>
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2016 at 11:04 AM, Ivan Adji - Krstev <span
dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:akivanradix@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:akivanradix@gmail.com">akivanradix@gmail.com</a></a>></span>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif">Hi Jim, <br>
Thanks for the feedback. <br>
The problem is that im trying to
monitor big infrastructure ( 200
Physical servers and more than
1000 VMs ). So currently i have
install with MongoDB and have
300MB for one week monitoring just
two VMs. The server syslog-ng and
one client VM. Also i have used
before syslog-ng with MariaDB
(MySQL) but i have problem that i
have 90% CPU Load when i used
MySQL. I can't fix it. But now
using MongoDB i have other
problems. Using LogAnalyzer i
can't see the "Date", "Facility",
Serverity etc. on a main page but
when i go to the log itself or i
open it i can see all this
informations. So i have the
following<br>
<br>
1. Syslog-NG with MySQL and
LogAnalyzer ( works ok but CPU
Usage was big ) <br>
2. Syslog-NG with MongoDB and
LogAnalyzer ( works ok but no
informations shown on a first page
) <br>
<br>
So i can't find solutions and i
need this sh*** up and running
ASAP :) <br>
<br>
Any solutions or suggestions im
open to see it !<br>
<br>
Kind regards<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
Ivan<br>
<br>
<br>
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href="mailto:jrhendri@roadrunner.com"
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<pre>My 2 cents (what works for you depends on your infrastructure, resources and capabilities)
I like the model where syslog-ng does all the following:
- writes text files of the raw data (that way - whatever your search head is can re-ingest files later using basically the same parsers)
- filters out highly false-positive prone data from being forwarded
- handles parsing of data elements (using patterndb or whatever) and sends specific information to a search engine (like Elasticsearch)
- forwards specific data (based on security use cases) to a SIEM
Whether you use Elasticsearch, mongo, splunk, or whatever is really up to you and your budget.
That said, I find syslog-ng to elasticsearch directly with kibana as the front end is *very* scalable for a search engine.
As far as a SIEM - it's kind of up to you.
Good luck,
Jim
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<pre>Hi all,
What is the best practice for storing all those logs in one central
environment. I have one Linux Box running Syslog-NG with LogAnalyzer and
MongoDB ( for now ), and is the best way to configure and use it with
MongoDB or with MariaDB ( MySQL ) ? I have once install MySQL but it was
getting very slow as the logs getting bigger and bigger ( for one week ).
Now i have done with MongoDB ( still testing ) but i have problem as
LogAnalyzer does not show me the real pictures, i have no Date info, no
Facility, no serverity, Hosts, syslogtag, i just have ProcessID.
Any hints on this ?
I have the following configuration on the syslog-ng.cfg:
destination d_mongodb {
mongodb(
servers("localhost:27017")
database("logs")
# uri('mongodb://localhost/syslog-ng')
collection("syslog")
value-pairs(
scope("selected-macros" "nv-pairs" "sdata")
)
);
};
Kind regards
Ivan
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