<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes, It is “unsupported” but I did not want to start out completing the deployment behind a release. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think its getting a bit off topic. The decision I am trying to make is on logstash. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Without it I seem to loose the ability to use a majority of the public templates out there for Kibanna dashboards and log filter templates from the logstash community. </div><div class="">With logstash I need to daisy chain this log management process to import data and my ASA logs are always behind. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I still have a couple of weeks of testing and tuning and figuring out stuff before I start my chef cookbooks. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">CentOS Linux release 7.2.1511 ISO </b></div><div class=""><b class="">elasticsearch-2.3.1 from RPM </b></div><div class=""><b class="">kibana-4.5.0-linux-x64 from DOWNLOAD </b></div><div class=""><div class=""><b class="">syslog-ng 3.8.0alpha0 from GIT </b></div><div class="">Installer-Version: 3.8.0alpha0</div><div class="">Revision:</div><div class="">Module-Directory: /opt/syslog-ng/lib/syslog-ng</div><div class="">Module-Path: /opt/syslog-ng/lib/syslog-ng</div><div class="">Available-Modules: syslogformat,afsocket,affile,afprog,afuser,afamqp,afmongodb,afsmtp,csvparser,confgen,system-source,linux-kmsg-format,basicfuncs,cryptofuncs,dbparser,json-plugin,geoip-plugin,afstomp,pseudofile,graphite,sdjournal,mod-java,kvformat,date,cef,disk-buffer</div><div class="">Enable-Debug: off</div><div class="">Enable-GProf: off</div><div class="">Enable-Memtrace: off</div><div class="">Enable-IPv6: on</div><div class="">Enable-Spoof-Source: on</div><div class="">Enable-TCP-Wrapper: off</div><div class="">Enable-Linux-Caps: off</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 21, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Czanik, Péter <<a href="mailto:peter.czanik@balabit.com" class="">peter.czanik@balabit.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi,<br class=""></div><br class="">ES2 support is only available in the not yet released syslog-ng OSE 3.8 (I have some unofficial RPMs, but ES2 part is not yet tested, I plan to do it next week). 3.7, which is the latest stable release, only supports ES1.<br class=""><br class=""></div>Yotu can name you index whatever you like. I named it "syslog-ng_..." as I prefer to give unique names instead of the expected one. The more important part is the <span style="color:rgb(59,59,59);line-height:17.4017px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">${YEAR}.${MONTH}.${DAY}" part, as Kibana expect the actual date as well. So you can name it: </span><span style="color:rgb(59,59,59);line-height:17.4017px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">"logstash-${YEAR}.${MONTH}.${DAY}" and configure Kibana easier. It might also help you to use pre-built dashboards, but I don't know, as I always built dashboards myself...<br class=""><br class=""></span></div><span style="color:rgb(59,59,59);line-height:17.4017px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class="">Bye,<br class=""></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature">Peter Czanik (CzP) <<a href="mailto:peter.czanik@balabit.com" target="_blank" class="">peter.czanik@balabit.com</a>><br class="">Balabit / syslog-ng upstream<br class=""><a href="http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/</a><br class=""><a href="https://twitter.com/PCzanik" target="_blank" class="">https://twitter.com/PCzanik</a></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Scot Needy <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:scotrn@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">scotrn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class="">ES2 and Kibanna 4 but hold on a sec… </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I used your blog as a starting reference. Great job BTW, but I don’t see how the logstash index can exist using this directive in syslogng.conf </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span style="color:rgb(59,59,59);line-height:17.4017px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)" class=""> option("index", "syslog-ng_${YEAR}.${MONTH}.${DAY}")</span></div><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 21, 2016, at 3:41 AM, Czanik, Péter <<a href="mailto:peter.czanik@balabit.com" target="_blank" class="">peter.czanik@balabit.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Hi,<br class=""></div><br class="">To get started with syslog-ng + patterndb + ElasticSearch, you could use my blog at <a href="https://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/2015/10/how-to-parse-data-with-syslog-ng-store-in-elasticsearch-and-analyze-with-kibana/" target="_blank" class="">https://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/2015/10/how-to-parse-data-with-syslog-ng-store-in-elasticsearch-and-analyze-with-kibana/</a> It shows how to parse ssh log-in messages, and how to display them with Kibana.<br class=""><br class=""></div>If you use "logstash-${YEAR}.${MONTH}.${DAY}" as index name, Kibana should find your logs without any extra setup.<br class=""></div><br class="">Which versions of Elasticsearch and Kibana do you use?<br class=""><br class=""></div>Bye,<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="">Peter Czanik (CzP) <<a href="mailto:peter.czanik@balabit.com" target="_blank" class="">peter.czanik@balabit.com</a>><br class="">Balabit / syslog-ng upstream<br class=""><a href="http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://czanik.blogs.balabit.com/</a><br class=""><a href="https://twitter.com/PCzanik" target="_blank" class="">https://twitter.com/PCzanik</a></div></div>
<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Balazs Scheidler <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:bazsi77@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">bazsi77@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">well, one thing that is probably a lot faster with syslog-ng is parsing, so I guess it all boils down to performance needed at the reception side.<br class=""><br class=""></div>receiving and writing out into a file, then polling that file for changes is definitely slower if you have non-trival amount of messages. syslog-ng receve & parse can happen at the 100k/second range and certainly ES is usually slower than that, but that's the entire point in scaling, right? so if I scale ES to the 100k/sec range, doing this with syslog-ng reduces the load a lot at the data center collector a lot.<br class=""></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 6:02 AM, Orangepeel Beef <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:orangepeelbeef@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">orangepeelbeef@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">We used rsyslog to receive from all networking devices, and rsyslog<->rsyslog for systems. then I did some addtional processing of the logs for realtime alerting and shove them into ES with logstash. They all complement each other. Then you just need to stand up 1 log collection (in your case syslog-ng) server in each physical datacenter, and use logstash to parse the logs, and lumberjack to send them out to some central ES stack.</div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Scot Needy <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:scotrn@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">scotrn@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">That seems to be the way most people are doing it but I think in absence of syslog-ng not in place of it. </div><div class="">But I don’t like the idea of waiting every XX minutes to see my ASA logs. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">My understanding is the Logstash part of the ELK stack is not required if you use the syslog-ng Elasticsearch plugin. </div><div class="">pro Realtime data </div><div class="">pro No additional hop for your data. </div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 20, 2016, at 10:46 PM, Orangepeel Beef <<a href="mailto:orangepeelbeef@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">orangepeelbeef@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">They way I always liked doing it was to send all the logs via syslog regularly to your central collection server and use logstash file input to parse them in and shove into ES.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 7:43 PM, Orangepeel Beef <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:orangepeelbeef@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">orangepeelbeef@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">logstash-* index is for logs that have been ingested via logstash of course :) <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">every component of ELK scales horizontally extremely well. </div></div><div class=""><br class="">
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